May I ask a question please? How is it that Lucifer was upon this earth in the Garden of Eden in an already fallen state as the serpent and deceiver or devil? Lucifer had already corrupted the whole earth, before his fall from grace, according to the Bible. How did he manage to corrupt this whole earth with his "trafficing" before it was populated? There was only God, Adam, Eve and Lucifer here, plus the animals God had just created. Lucifer could not possibly have already corrupted the population of this world as it was not yet populated! Would love to hear your explanation, please?


I would be interested in what verse you based this idea upon. Jesus said, "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it" (John 8:44). But "beginning" doesn't necessarily mean before man was created. In another place Jesus mentioned that marriage existed from the beginning (Matthew 19:4-6), and that included man.

When John said, "We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one" (I John 5:19), he was speaking of the current time and where "world" refers to the human population, not the physical earth.

I know of no passage that teaches what you are saying.