Read an article on your page concerning Paul and his motives.If what is stated in the New Testament is true, I agree with you about him.Could you tell me what the "Law of Christ" is?

My teaching, and correct me if I am wrong, is that "the Torah" better translates from the Hebrew into the English as "instruction." It is a misnomer for anyone to call it the "Law of Moses". Did Moses write the instructions or did God give them to him?You talked specifically about the Ten Commandments and made a statement coming from Paul: Paul quotes the last of the Ten Commandments. It was this law that had come to an end in order that it might be replaced with a greater law -- the law of Christ. So are you saying that the Ten Commandments given by Almighty God is replaced by the law of Christ? I hope that is not what I am reading!


"Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah- not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more" (Jeremiah 31:31-34).

It was the Almighty God who stated that He would be giving Israel a new covenant that was not like the old one. In particular, He stated that the old covenant that would be replaced was the one He gave to Israel when He brought them out of the land of Egypt. This was the time when the first five books, that you refer to as the Torah were given to Israel, and includes the Ten Commandments.

"For what great nation is there that has God so near to it, as the LORD our God is to us, for whatever reason we may call upon Him? And what great nation is there that has such statutes and righteous judgments as are in all this law which I set before you this day? Only take heed to yourself, and diligently keep yourself, lest you forget the things your eyes have seen, and lest they depart from your heart all the days of your life. And teach them to your children and your grandchildren, especially concerning the day you stood before the LORD your God in Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Gather the people to Me, and I will let them hear My words, that they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children.' Then you came near and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the mountain burned with fire to the midst of heaven, with darkness, cloud, and thick darkness. And the LORD spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You heard the sound of the words, but saw no form; you only heard a voice. So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone" (Deuteronomy 4:7-13).

The fact that you refuse to believe God when He stated that He would be replacing the Old Covenant with a new one doesn't bother me nor does it establish truth. "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ" (John 1:17). Thus the answer to one of your other questions is, "Yes, God did give His Law through Moses." And yes, it is perfectly proper to refer to the Torah as the Law of Moses.

"as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded the children of Israel, as it is written in the Book of the Law of Moses: "an altar of whole stones over which no man has wielded an iron tool." And they offered on it burnt offerings to the LORD, and sacrificed peace offerings. And there, in the presence of the children of Israel, he wrote on the stones a copy of the law of Moses, which he had written." (Joshua 8:31).

The quote by Joshua comes from Exodus 20:24-25 and Deuteronomy 27:5-6. You did notice that that includes the Ten Commandments that God wrote on tablets of stone, didn't you?

David also called it the Law of Moses when giving instruction to Solomon:

"And keep the charge of the LORD your God: to walk in His ways, to keep His statutes, His commandments, His judgments, and His testimonies, as it is written in the Law of Moses, that you may prosper in all that you do and wherever you turn" (I Kings 2:3).

I actually count 14 times that the first five books are referred to as the Law of Moses in the Old Testament. Thus you should not be surprised that it is called this in the New Testament, such as this reference to Leviticus 12:

"Now when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord" (Luke 2:22).

Thus we come to Paul's statement in Romans:

"Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives? For the woman who has a husband is bound by the law to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies, she is released from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress; but if her husband dies, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she has married another man. Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another--to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter. What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet." But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good. Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful" (Romans 7:1-13).

The new Law was delivered to us, not through a man, but by the Son of God Himself.

"Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus, who was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was faithful in all His house. For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God. And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end" (Hebrews 3:1-6).

The law Jesus brought was greater than what Moses brought. "But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises" (Hebrews 8:6).

Because it was brought to us by Jesus, it is properly referred to as the law of Christ. "Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). In other words, the law of Christ is the New Testament. It is this law that Christians live under. "not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ" (I Corinthians 9:21).

Thanks for answering so promptly. Seems to me it isn't a different covenant but the same one only the delivery will be different. Still His law! Or is it Moses' law? It is also to Israel and Judah! It hasn't come yet, are you still preaching? Why? If it was here now there would be no teaching. So you are saying that Jeremiah 31:30 is a different covenant than the original. You know I like to start with verse 29 to have people explain to me their apologetics for it. It is amazing that it comes right before. If you had not brought up Jeremiah 31 it would not have been mentioned: By the way I believe God, but I also want to establish His truth. I really do not care if people want to write Moses' law a hundred times in the Bible. It is a misnomer to me. Let me ask you a pointed yes or no answer and that will determine to me if I am incorrect! Was it Almighty God that had a covenant with the Israelites or was it Moses? Was it God's law or Moses. I can't control what scribes put down. Do you honestly believe that the Israelites did not know where these instructions came from?

The obvious answer is that the Israelites did know where all the Old Testament came from -- something that you firmly deny. You reject that the words of Jeremiah are the words of God. Instead you claim that they are the words or some unknown scribe whom you quickly dismiss. Why should we discuss verse 29, though it isn't difficult at all to understand? You don't believe it is the word of God. Even though Jeremiah 31:31 contains the words "says the LORD" you don't believe that it was actually the Almighty who was speaking. Instead, you believe that these words are lies.

Your own words confirm your unbelief. You don't care how often people inspired by the Holy Spirit wrote words that contradict your assertions, you are "right" and no one can prove you wrong.

How utterly sad.